Even Washington Post editors oppose forcing police officers and fire fighters into labor unions:
Congress should let states handle their own labor relations
ALL ACROSS America, state and local governments are struggling with recession-induced budget crises as revenue has plummeted and demand for services has remained high. But the issue is not only cyclical. Many public employees have been promised pay, pensions and health benefits that tax bases cannot sustain even in good times. As a result, voters and political leaders of both parties are rethinking the costs and benefits of public-sector unionism.
Except in Congress, it seems. Senate Majority Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) is pushing to federalize labor relations between state and local governments and some public-sector unions. The Public Safety Employer-Employee Cooperation Act would require all states to give police and fire unions “adequate” collective bargaining rights — as determined by the Federal Labor Relations Authority. States deemed “inadequate” could wind up in federal court. Long sought by public-safety unions, the bill is supported not only by Mr. Reid but also by Republicans, including the soon-to-retire Sen. Judd Gregg (N.H.). It has a good chance of passing if the Senate can fit it on its busy calendar.
What this bill would do is impose a permanent, one-size-fits-all federal solution in an area — public-sector labor relations — that has traditionally been left to the states, and where state flexibility is probably more necessary than ever. The imposition on Virginia would be dramatic, of course, but even union-friendly Maryland, which lets each county decide whether and how to bargain with its employees, might find itself in costly, time-consuming contention with the feds. Farther afield, Colorado’s “fire protection districts,” special units of government dedicated to providing that service, would face costly collective bargaining even where firefighters and management are working harmoniously without it.
Just what we need more government unions to suck us dry.
Instead of adding more public employees to union rolls, states should be increasibg the retirement age, lowering pension benefits and lowering retirement medical benefits paid to existing retired unionized public employees. Most of the states will go broke unless unfunded public employee retirement benefits are reigned in. Unionized public employees should receive no greater retirement benefits than non-union employees, in the private sector, receive for similar pre retirement jobs.
Why do we keep putting our heads in the sand about what these Marxist traitors are trying to do to our Country.When it comes to the safety of our economic system of government,treason is the side they’re on
Once again the President has initiated an act in Congress that is unconstitutional. The Proper reaction is IMPEACHMENT. There are only two ways for a President leave office and the first is unacceptable. So all that is left for us is to enforce, through the voting booth, the impeachment of the Speaker of the House of Representative for failure to perform her duties. In this casei impeachment of a President who insists in ignoring the Constitution which he swore to uphold when he took offfice.
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Once again the President has initiated an act in Congress that is unconstitutional. The proper reaction by the people is IMPEACHMENT. The only acceptable way to remove a sitting President is to force the Congress to inmpeach him for high crimes or misdemeanors. This one has committed more high crimes than any in the my lifetime(84 years) and should be removed.
I’m telling you, it will cost more. The unions will reap an undeserved benefit. So don’t do it!
Since when have we started letting the President be a dicator of this nation. Is’nt there enough Senators and Representatives that care about this nation that have enough back bone to stand against this so called kind of leadership.
Democrats are buying long term votes with our future. They must be stopped.
These devious tactics to sneak bills into law without allowing the public to exam their impact will have such a detremental affect of Obama’s presidency that i dread to even think how historians will describe the debacle. Everything he promised the American people during his campaign has had quite the opposite results.
Even when the government was small they still had to much power. The proof is right now. The little power they had was used to make the government bigger. If we and I pray get back our United States. Good laws better be made so this can never happen again. Fool on America once and that was when FDR was trying to change America. Why didn’t we stop and make laws to stop this nightmare. Same on us the second time for not stopping the government greed.
The Corrupt Unions are pure Socialism and are being pushed by our corrupt Socialist Government. This has to come to an end!!
It seems that our represntatives care more about their campaign donations from the Unions then the good of our country. You would think that the economy, jobs, the deficit, protecting our borders and this G-d awful oil spill in the gulf should be their only priorities. They have no right to take this decision from the States. They are all in great financial problems now, as it is. If nothing else, this should be a vote by the people in each state. There should be a law that all major issues should be voted on by the citizens instead of our representatives. They aren’t listening and making decisions against our will. The outrageous bills passed in this Administration the last year and a half will put us in debt through many future generations. How do they have the right? They know the majority of America is against this. Vote No on this Bill and Card Check, which I think is against our democracy and Constitution. Return our Country to the strong Nation we use to be, not so long ago.
This country is fast becoming a Socialist/Marxist stronghold. NONE of the bills that have been passed by this present administration are Constitutional. Mubarak Hussein Obama is a Kenyan Muslim, masquerading as a Christian, masquerading as an American. Why doesn’t any of the so-called “mainstream news outlets” report the real news? Why do we have a president who has found it necessary to spend over $1.2 Million dollars to seal ALL of his records? NO OTHER president in the history of this country has EVER found that necessary, yet not one peep from the so-called “news” reporters. What does Obama have to hide from the American people, and why can’t we force him to hand over ALL of his records in order to keep his job? Nancy Pelosi knew that Obama wasn’t a natural-born American citizen, as required by the Constitution, when she deemed him to be qualified at the Democratic National Convention. Obama should absolutely be impeached for violating his oath of office with EVERY bill that he has signed. His oath requires him to protect, preserve, and enforce the Constitution of the United States, yet this administration doesn’t even bother to pay lip-service to our nation’s Constitution and other federal laws. Obama has demonstrated open corruption and lies ever since his first days in office. He hasn’t bothered to keep ANY one of his many, many campaign promises and vows. Why dos this man get a pass on the truth when other presidents have been excoriated by the press for many minor offenses? Is it just the fear of being called a racist? Are ALL of the news organizations in this country so biased that they refuse to report the failure of Obama at every turn. His only success has been in spending more money than all of the previous administrations put together. Obama 9during his campaign), stated no less than eight (8) times that ALL of these important bils that he promised to pass would be broadcast LIVE on C-SPAN, “so the American voters can see which representatives are backing the big drug companies, etc.” He was going to have the bills debated streaming “live on the internet for all to see”. He repeatedly stated that he would have the most open, bipartisan administration in history, with a “NEW” kind of Washington politics. He has done the exact opposite of every promise and vow that he made on the campaign trail. Once he got into office, it became Chicago-style thug politics transplanted to Washington. He has done nothing but criticize any politicians who don’t agree with his style of ignoring the Constitution and paying off the unions. It’s blatantly unconstitutional for the federal governnment to take over the auto companies and GIVE 66% ownership of Chrysler to Obama’s UAW union supporters in exchnge for their money and votes that they provided to his campaign. The Constitution specifically BARS the federal government from interfering in private contracts, yet Obama can do ANYTHING that he wants, such as firing the president of GM and appointing his union buddy Ed Whitacre as their new head. It doesn’t appear to make news that Whitacre has NO previous experience with the auto industry. Yet he was and is a large Democratic supporter “bankroll’. His hundreds of millions of dollars that he got from his former job as head of AT&T must make him capable of anything. Obama should be impeached, arrested, convicted of treason and theft in office. Treasonous acts in a time of war used to be a bad thing. But, I guess if you’re the first black president you can get away with absolutely anything, even when you’re not eligible to hold the office. Obama was elected because he was a black man who was able to convince many people that he was running against George Bush, even though Bush wasn’t running for the office. Obama never had ANY qualifications or experience that would qualify him in any way for the job of President. He never even had a real job, he had NO experience managing people or any large company or ANYTHING that would give him a background that would make anyone think that he could make a good president. But, since he could tell good lies, and promise smoke and mirrrors, he got the job, even though he’s NOT ELIGIBLE to even run for the office. There are numerous red flags, such as him admitting that he went to Pakistan, at a time when it was illegal to do so, without an American passport. Yet, no news organization found that newsworthy. The man is running this nation into the ground. NOTHING in the Constitution gives the federal government the power to FORCE American citizens to buy a product or service. (Health Insurance) If America doesn’t wake up, right now, Obama will be responsible from changing this from a Constitutional republic with guaranteed freedoms, to a third-world country with two classes, the millionaires (and politicians), and the people living in, or on the very edge of poverty. Trillions of dollars of deficit spending are going to ensure runaway inflation, making a much larger lower class and NO middle class.
NO!!!!!! Stop OBAMA NOW! BillY396 You are so right, get him out.
I agree, STOP Obama. Get him OUT! We want OUR country back!
NO third world country for US.
I agree with much that Billy396 says but, because there are too many good reasons why I don’t believe the Obama folks about where he was born;1- Grandma’s proclamation; -2 the ardent hiding of his REAL SEALED intact BC; 3- the amount of trouble and $$’s spent on hiding his college record/scholarship records; 4-the hiding of information about how he paid for his college education-foreign students get a break over US students; 5 -the revealing of his “Certified Copy of Registration of Birth” without any signage from the attending doctor , I looked at video from The Young Turks(TYK) who says that Mombasa was not in Kenya on the birth date of Obama, and Kenya wasn’t a State at that time(or something to that effect). Anyway, I am going to do some research on what was going on in Mombasa and Kenya on 11/29/42.
Hurray for the Washington Post for standing up to the Obama Admin by NOT supporting forced unionism of our Policemen, Firemen and other city workers. Obama wants to force the medical personnel into unions too. OMG…what a nightmare that turns into.
I agree with much that Billy396 says because there are too many good reasons why I don’t believe the Obama folks about where he was born;1- Grandma’s proclamation; -2 the ardent hiding of his REAL SEALED intact BC; 3- the amount of trouble and $$’s spent on hiding his college record/scholarship records; 4-the hiding of information about how he paid for his college education-foreign students get a break over US students; 5 -the revealing of his “Certified Copy of Registration of Birth” without any signage from the attending doctor , I looked at video from The Young Turks(TYT) who says that Mombasa was not a part of Kenya on the birth date of Obama, and Kenya wasn’t a State at that time(or something to that effect). Anyway, I am going to do some research on what was going on in Mombasa and Kenya on 11/29/42.
Hurray for the Washington Post for standing up to the Obama Admin by NOT supporting forced unionism of our Policemen, Firemen and other city workers. Obama wants to force the medical personnel into unions too. OMG…what a nightmare that turns into.
While campaignig in Florida Obama said to a group of Jewish Americans: “I will not make a good president.” Needless to say they were astonished. My guess is most of those present voted for him anyway as did most other Jewish Americans. Why?
Thursday, December 1,2009 AP- Washington, D.C.
“VERY QUIETLY OBAMA’S CITIZENSHIP CASE REACHES THE SUPREME COURT.
In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama’s qualifications for the presidency, the group, ‘Americans for Freedom of Information’ has released copies of President Obama’s college transcripts from Occidental College. Released today, the transcript school indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate.The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Supreme Court of California. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowdhip for foreign students from the Fullbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify, for a fellowship, a student must claim foreign citizenship. This document would seem to the provide smoking gun that many of Obama’s detractors have been seeking. Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya and there is no record of him ever applying for US citizenship, this is looking pretty grim. The news has created a firestorm at the White House as the release casts increasing doubt about Obama’s legitimacy and qualification to serve as President. When reached for comment in London, where he has been in meetings with British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, Obama smiled and refused comment on the issue. Britain’s Daily Mail has also carried the story in a front-page article titled ‘Obama’s Eligibility Questioned’ leading some to speculate that the story may overshadow economic issues on Obama’s first official visit to the U.K. In a related matter, under growing pressure from several groups, …”
Wow, I cannont believe some of you, especially Jack. Police and Fireman as Marxists traitors? Forget about 9/11 already? Who’s the real enemy here? You are either a business owner or some kind of stupid house slave to keep spewing this anti-unionism bile. There is nothing about a democracy that excludes people from organizing, especially for protection against the likes of you. 100 years ago your great-granparents were probably the ones killing union members in the name of “freedom” although it was really just the same thing as the poor deluded whites in the South. At least some of those guys were brought to justice. There has been no justice for the dozens killed in the Northwest by the American Legion and other anti-union forces. And you are so freaking delusional about the current situation you act like you are living out Red Dawn. You are an embarrassment to your country, but thank goodness for the freedom of speech. It just makes it easier for us to see what you really feel and boycott your business and vote against your programs. Thanks for the info, I’ll make sure my elected officials support the Police and Firefighters and that the Secret Service check out some of you more violent ones. Did I imply you were a terrorist for hating Police and Firefighters and threatening the president? Well if the bomb vest fits . . .
[...] 1.) Police and Fire Fighters Forced Unionism Bill: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29DuD5LlJ2E and http://www.nrtwc.org/washington-post-police-fire-federal-forced-unionism-a-bad-idea/ [...]
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Typical of someone who cannot debate the issue to pull out “9/11″ and “terrorists.” Sounds like a combination of our last two President — “George W. Obama.”
The problem here is that public safety worker issues have always been handled at the state level. Some states have public safety worker monopoly bargaining and some don’t. If passed, this bill would virtually federalize the relationship between a state, county, city, or whatever entity has jurisdiction over a paid or volunteer fire department.
Don’t you see a problem with that? The feds say, “well, you don’t have this, so we are going to force you to have it.” That’s what is going on here.
Let states decide what works best for them. The federal government has no role in the states’ public safety worker affairs.
Billy 396 is an idiot. That about says it all.
All I ask of everyone is to not blame the good men and women who are firefighters,medics and police officers. They look out for us everyday and freely risk their lives for our safety. God Bless them all. Also pray for our military who keep us safe.